Below are our comprehensive kitchen cabinet ratings for the top selling manufacturers in the United States and how they rank for construction quality and for value considering the price point of each cabinet line. Price point is ranked from 1 to 6 with 6 being the most expensive custom cabinetry on the market. These Kitchen Cabinet reviews were compiled and rated by our team of highly experienced kitchen designers.
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03-07-2022 NOTICE Many less expensive brands priced at the 1 and 2 level presently have OUT OF STOCK ISSUES AND EXTENDED DELAYS Check with dealers for timelines. Generally, most higher end semi-custom brands at the 3 and 4 price point now take from 8 weeks to 14 weeks or longer. Most high-end and custom brands at the 5 or 6 price point now take 18 to 24 weeks, some even longer.
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How the ratings work
Kitchen cabinet ratings assume each line is upgraded to the top level of construction available, usually all plywood construction.
A grade of A for construction quality will not be equal across different price levels, as the more expensive price point cabinets will have far nicer finishes and construction options.
Note: The highest grade for Quality in any frameless European style cabinet line is a B. While frameless cabinetry is easier to access and is sleeker looking, it is also less durable than the best made framed cabinetry.
The value grade we give is not a rating about the quality of the cabinetry but a rating of how good an investment a cabinet line is considering its cost.
For example, many of the most expensive well-made cabinet lines receive lower marks on value even though as designers we think the cabinetry is the best in its class.
These lines receive lower grades on value simply because there are competitors offering the same quality at slightly lower prices. If price is no object, then we recommend ignoring the value rating in the cabinetry priced in the 6-price point.
Disclosure
Main Line kitchen design acknowledges that we are dealers for the following cabinet lines: Wellsford, Bishop, Brighton, Fabuwood, Legacy Presidential, Timberlake and CNC. We could be prejudiced towards ranking these lines more favorably, but we have tried to be impartial. However, since the cabinet lines we carry were chosen specifically for their construction quality and value, our ranking them well should not be a surprise.
KITCHEN CABINET RATINGS
| Cabinet line | Price level 1-6 | Quality | Value |
| 21st Century | 1 | A | A- |
| 6Square Out of Business | 2 | ||
| Adelphia Kitchens | 3 | B | B |
| Adornus (frameless) | 3 | B | B |
| Alusso by Adornus (frameless) | 3 | B | B |
| All Wood – framed | 2 | A | A |
| All Wood – frameless | 1 | C | C |
| American Woodmark | 3 | B+ | B |
| Aristocraft | 2 | C | C |
| Belmont 1900 Series Frameless | 4 | B | B+ |
| Bertch | 4 | A | A- |
| Bishop | 4 | A+ | B++ |
| Bishop Frameless | 5 | B | A |
| B.J. Tidwell Cabinetry | 3 | B | C+ |
| Bremtown | 6 | A+ | B |
| Brighton | 5 | A- | A+ |
| Brookhaven | 5.5 | A | B |
| Brubaker | 5 | A | A |
| Cabico | 4 | B | B |
| Cabinet Depot | 2 | B+ | B+ |
| Candlelight | 4 | A | A |
| Canyon Creek | 3 | B | B |
| CliqStudios Reopened | 2.5 | B+ | ? |
| CNC | 1.5 | A- | A- |
| Collier | 5 | A | B- |
| Craft-Made Cabinetry framed | 5 | A | A |
| Crestwood Framed | 5 | A | A |
| Crestwood Frameless | 5 | B | A- |
| CrownPoint Cabinetry (framed) | 5.5 | A+ | A |
| CrownPoint (frameless) | 5.5 | B | A |
| Crystal custom | 5 | A | A |
| Crystal semi-custom | 4 | B+ | B+ |
| Cubitac Prestige and Imperial | 1.5 | A | A |
| Cuisine Ideale (frameless) | 4 | B | B |
| Decora | 4.5 | A | B |
| Desginers Choice | 4 | A | A |
| Design-Craft | 4 | B | B- |
| Diamond | 4 | B+ | B+ |
| Diamond Now Stock | 1 | B | B |
| Durasupreme | 5 | B+ | B- |
| Durasupreme frameless | 3 | C | C |
| Dynasty by Omega (frameless) | 4 | B | B+ |
| Dynasty by Omega (framed) | 4 | A | A-/B+ |
| Dynasty Pinnacle (framed) | 5 | A | B |
| Echelon Cabinetry | 2 | B- | C |
| Eclipse by Shiloh | 4.5 | B- / C+ | B |
| Eurocraft Frameless | 3.5 | C | C+ |
| Executive (frameless) | 4 | B | B |
| Fabuwood | 2 | A | A |
| Fabuwood (frameless) | Disc | Disc | Disc |
| Fieldstone | 4.5 | A- | B+ |
| Forevermark | 1.5 | B+ | B |
| Grabill | 6 | A+ | B |
| Great Northern Classic | 5 | A | A |
| Green Forest | 2 | A | A- |
| Haas | 3 | B | B |
| Hampton Bay (frameless stock) | 1 | D | C+ |
| Hanssem framed | 1 | B- | C+ |
| Holiday (frameless) | 3 | C | supply |
| Holiday Kitchens | 4 | A | problems |
| Homecrest | 3 | B+ | B+ |
| Homestead Custom | 4 | A | A- |
| Ideal Cabinetry | 2 | B | A- |
| IKEA (frameless) | 1 | D | C |
| Innovation | 2 | C | C |
| JSI Cabinetry | 1 | B+ | B+ |
| J&K Cabinets | 2 | A+ | A- |
| Kabinart | 3 | C+ | D |
| Kemper | 4 | B+ | B+ |
| Kitchen Compact | 2 | B- | C- |
| Kitchencraft (frameless) | 3 | C | B |
| Kith | 3 | B+ | C+ |
| Koch Classic | 4 | A- | A- |
| Kountry Kraft (framed) | 6 | A | B |
| Kountry Kraft (frameless) | 6 | B | B |
| Kountry Wood | 2 | C | C |
| Kraftmaid | 4 | A- | A- |
| Kraftmaid Vantage | 4 | A- | A |
| Legacy | 2.5 | B+ | B |
| Legacy Presidential | 3 | A | B |
| LifeArt | 1 | C+ | A |
| Luxor Collection Frameless | 4 | B | B |
| Marsh | 2 | B | B |
| Marsh (frameless) | 2 | B- | B |
| MasterCraft | 2 | B | B |
| Medallion (Now owed by ACPI ) | 5 | A- | B+ |
| Merillat | 2 | C | D |
| Merit Kitchens | 4 | B+ | B |
| Mid Continent | 2 | C | C |
| Mouser | 5 | A | A- |
| Mouser (frameless) | 5 | B | A |
| NatureKast Waterproof Cabinets | 5 | A | A |
| Norcraft (every upgrade used) | 3 | B | D |
| Ovation | 4 | B | C |
| Plain and Fancy | 6 | A | B+ |
| Plato Woodwork | 5 | A | A |
| Poggenpohl (frameless) | 6 | B | C |
| ProCraft | 1 | A | A- |
| QCCI Quality Custom | 6+ | A+ | A- |
| QuakerMaid (frameless) | 4 | B | B |
| RiverRun Cabinetry | 3.75 | B | B- |
| R.D. Henry | 4 | A | A |
| Rutt | 6 | A+ | A |
| Schrock | 4 | B+/ A- | B+/ A- |
| Schuler | 5 | A- | B+ |
| Shenandoah | 3 | B+ | B |
| Shiloh | 4 | C | C |
| Showplace | 4 | A | B++ |
| ShowplaceEVO (frameless) | 3.5 | B | B+ |
| Siematic | 5.5 | B | C |
| Signature Custom | 5 | A+ | A+ |
| Siteline Cabinetry | 3.5 | B- | C |
| Solid Wood Cabinets | Closed | Bankrupt | |
| St. Martin (frameless) | 3.5 | B | A |
| Starmark standard | 5 | C | C |
| Starmark inset or 3/4″ back panel | 5 | A+ | A |
| Stylecraft | 6 | A | A |
| Tedd Wood | 5 | A | A |
| Thomasville* | 4 | B+/A- | B+/A- |
| Thomasville Nouvell | 3 | D | D |
| Timberlake | 3 | B+ | B |
| Tru Cabinetry | 3 | B | B+/ A- |
| Ultracraft (frameless) | 2 | C | C |
| Ultracraft 3/4 ply upgrade | 3 | B | B+/A- |
| Urban Effects (frameless) | 3.75 | C- | D |
| Village | 5 | A | A |
| Waypoint | 3 | B+ | B |
| Wellborn | 4 and 5 | A | A |
| Wellborn Forrest | 3.5 | B+ | B+ |
| Wellsford | 5 | A+ | A+ |
| Wellsford (frameless) | 5 | B | A- |
| Wolf | 2 | A | B+ |
| Wolf Signature Series | 3.5 | A- | C+ |
| Woodharbor | 5 | B+ | C |
| Woodmode | 6 | A | A- |
| Yorktowne (Now owed by ACPI ) | 4 | A- | B+ |
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All the designers that gave us input on the cabinet lines below have greater than 20 years’ experience in our industry. When possible, all construction specifics were double checked on the web sites for each cabinet line.
1 Replies to “Kitchen Cabinet Ratings for 2021. Reviews for the Top Selling Cabinet Brands.”
Heidi
Hello- We are looking at Cardell cabinets upgraded to all plywood boxes at Menards. Are they comparable to Kraftmaid? Thank you.
Heidi
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Heidi,
I don’t know Cardell and their website doesn’t say anything about how they are made. The website is sort of unprofessional and they terrible reviews on Google. I wouldn’t compare them to a national brand like Kraftmaid and Menards is probably not the place you’d find a great designer.
Corinne
Hi Paul – Can you comment on Starmark? Our kitchen designer recommended them. I see there are 2 options and one you only rate a “C” quality. What should I be asking for?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Corine,
Ask for the 3/4″ back upgrade in Starmark and then they are excellent.
Maria
Do you know if the quality of J&K has gone down. Also, is 21st century a better cabinet. Looking for white shaker cabinets. Thank you for your time!
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Maria,
I don’t think that the quality of these type brands has gone down. However, there are supply chain issues, backorders and far more shipping damages since 2020. Of these type brands I think Fabuwood is the best but there are many close seconds.
Teri
Hi Paul,
I’m deciding between two recommended kitchen designers/cabinet dealers. One is recommending Brighton, but also sells Homecrest. The other is very big on Siteline (he’s more focused on helping me stick to my budget. He also is big on Luxor). I’m considering mid rail shaker white painted perimeter cabinets with a contrast stained or painted island, preferably with slab front drawers.
You don’t seem to recommend Siteline very highly on your rankings. Why is that, and what are your thoughts on these three lines overall?
By the way, I have looked at Fabuwood and can’t find a dealer who sells them that has been recommended to me. Also not sure I can get the stained or painted look I want in that line either. But, they do look nice (and affordable).
Thank you!
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Teri,
We didn’t like Siteline’s construction. Luxor is frameless and for a shaker door style a framed line is a better investment. Brighton is an expensive custom line and in a completely different ballpark than these other lines. Homecrest is well made but a step above the prices of the US/Import lines like Fabuwood, Wolf, and J&K. It isn’t made better but offers more choices. The slab front drawers are less popular and so they will be slightly harder to find in a line like Fabuwood that is catering to the high end of the price driven customers.
Mark
Ordered Waypoint bathroom vanity from Good Value Center in Texas. Took 10 weeks to arrive. Poor Waypoint craftsmanship from dovetail joints not glued properly (cabinet not square), crooked drawers, uneven and non-adjustable spacing between doors, three broken or missing rail clips. Ordered same cabinet a few years back and it was perfect. None of this was Good Value Center’ fault. However, representatives (including owner, Michael Carson) were extremely unresponsive. I did get the rails replaced, but Good Value Center did nothing to solve the myriad of other problems. I sent plenty of photos to document the issues with my bath vanity. I got the same vanity a few years back and it was perfect. Contacted Waypoint’s Partnership Team, but they will not do anything because of their contractual relationship with retailer.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Mark,
Your experience is often a reflection of the dealer you work with which is why picking a dealer can be more important than a cabinet brand.
Sanjiv
Hello,
How do you rate Haggerstown Kitchen cabinetr?
Thank You, Sanjiv
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Sanjiv,
Sorry I don’t know the brand
Chris
Hi
I feel as Your comments are eluding to me being at fault for the horrendous cabinets that I had been receiving as replacements from KraftMaid. I am working with my designer and he was the one that said enough. we are done with the replacements from KraftMaid as they keep sending damaged cabinets. I can understand if they were damaged during shipment, but these left the factory in poor condition. AND THEY WERE INSPECTED! Wrong paint on one side of the cabinet (purple) when its a gray cabinet. Corners were chipped. A chunk of the cabinet was missing from the edge. Paint was peeling off the side of the panel. Scratches throughout the doors and drawer fronts. Chips. My designer has had nothing but major problems with KraftMaid and is no longer selling that brand. I don’t have any choice but to go with another company.as they have sent replacements 5 times already since last May. It’s been a very stressful year and to be honest, I don’t want any hint of a light grey slab door front cabinet in my home after this fiasco. I don’t understand how wanting something different raises flags. This is no one’s fault but the cabinetmaker. This is also the most simplest design and nothing was wrong with the design. It was a direct result of poor quality cabinets. My contractor and cabinet designer have been with me the entire road (and I respect their suggestions and feedback) and they are suggesting it’s time to move on and change direction. The granite was actually removed and reinstalled onto these cabinets as I am working with a great cabinet designer and his team are excellent at installing and re-installing countertops. Having my kitchen a complete mess for almost a year has been truly stressful. All I wanted was some input on which cabinet line you thought would be a good option and not about how one person gave u a bad review. I would never give my cabinet designer a bad review as it wasn’t his fault that KraftMaid has horrendous quality cabinets. Yes, I am stressed. Who wouldn’t be?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Chris,
All the wrong strategies were being employed during your replacement process. For example: Removing and replacing tops is not a wise or professional idea because no two cabinet installations will work for one countertop template. If tops are installed prior to getting undamaged cabinet replacements the missing cabinets needs to be replaced with the top remaining in place.
Professionals work on moving a job forward and come up with better work arounds than were used here. For example, if a cabinet side is scratched and not exposed the customer should accept it and the designer should explain why. If the side is exposed, it could be “skinned” or a panel added if that didn’t hurt the design. If doors and drawer fronts are damaged, replace those, but not the cabinet itself. This way even if things come damaged a second time the list gets shorter and the job moves forward.
I told you a story because it was a nice way of telling you, that as a expert, I can see many people in your story are part of the problem. Including Kraftmaid of course.
I had a former friend that I refused to sell a kitchen to because I could tell HE was going to be a problem. He complained that the frustration with trying to buy a kitchen from me was that you had to listen to the same stories OVER and OVER again. I told him that if he was hearing the same stories from me it was a sign that he wasn’t doing things sensibly and the stories were a gentle way to tell him that he was the problem.
When good designers, good contractors, and sensible customers work together they just don’t have a story like yours. Even when the cabinet company is creating the issues. But when everyone makes bad decisions this story is quite common. Below is our blog on this topic:
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/why-does-lightning-strike-the-same-people-repeatedly-during-a-kitchen-renovation/
George
Thank you, Paul.
I’m debating between Kraft Maid, Wolf Classic and Wolf Signature. Any additional information regarding these would be greatly appreciated it.
George
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi George,
All three lines are made well. Wolf will be much less than the Kraftmaid but Kraftmaid offers more door styles and finishes, nicer stains, and far more customization.
Chris
Hi
I have had a horrendous experience with KraftMaid cabinets. I placed my order last May 2021 and they have continuously sent me defective and damaged cabinets, doors etc. (not from shipping -these damaged cabinets left the factory in that condition) one even had a smiley face carved into the front of the door. This last replacement took three months as they had them inspected before they left the factory. Well, I think they were inspected by the visually impaired as I have no clue how they could have left with chunks broken off the edges, a hammer hit right in the middle of a door, paint finish was runny and there was a glob at the edge, etc. They have replaced them 5 times already and I am done. I am requesting a refund and hope that I will be granted one. The cabinet designer I am working with is supporting me and going to bat to obtain a refund credit. He recommended that I choose from Woodland, Koch, fabuwood and Timberlake. What are your thoughts on these cabinets. I am looking to go with something completely different as the ones I chose from KraftMaid have become stressful triggers. I am looking at a dark grey color/stain. I currently have the pebble grey slab front door. I don’t want slab and no light grey…. What would u recommend that I look at as this has been so overwhelming. Thank you so much for any feedback.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Chris,
Kraftmaid doesn’t have any worse reputation than other brands, so your experience is unusual. The supply chain stresses I’m sure have a hand in it. Ripping out the Kraftmaid kitchen will be more work than you may think if the countertops are already on. And the existing top will be unusable.
Custom cabinetry that might have higher standards than Kraftmaid is more expensive and typically takes 22 weeks right now. And brands like Fabuwood and Timberlake that we carry, while less expensive and having shorter ship times, are not immune to damages and back orders either.
The frustration of this experience has emotion stamped all over your comments and your decision making. Looking for something completely different also raises flags. Whatever you decide I would proceed slowly, carefully and maybe have us look at your design on our Friday helpline and podcast.
I worry because calamity usually strikes the same people due to many different, often not intuitive, reasons. Reviewing your design and discussing the process, your designer, and your contractor before you begin this project again certainly can’t hurt but I suspect that we would also find some of the reasons things went so badly the first time.
Cabinet companies always get blamed for everything in our industry. Often when we ask the right questions, we find that the real issues are a combination of everyone involved.
The designer that ordered a door style or finish without understanding the properties of what they were ordering. Contractors that can’t work around the issues and problems that arise in a kitchen renovation. And bad decision making and problem resolution skills on the part of all the professionals involved and unrealistic expectations on the part of the customer.
While it’s exceedingly rare, we have had nearly entire kitchens come damaged. For example, when truck drivers drove long distances with cabinets unsecured in their truck. Or defective glue was used in cabinet assembly. The resolutions required rapid responses on our part, the cabinet reps part, and making sure that the replacement cabinetry inspector, the delivery people, and the truck driver were all the most experienced people.
Getting a successful outcome is the real responsibility of the cabinet dealer. I think if you asked the few customers that our company had severe replacement problems with, nearly all would be happy and would be satisfied with what they bought and with our company. The 5 star reviews we receive reflect this.
Once we had a customer receive a kitchen in the wrong color. She was a very difficult customer, which was part of the reason we made the initial error. She complained often, switched designers during the design process, changed her mind constantly, and wanted everything rushed. We got her cabinetry replaced and the entire kitchen renovation was only delayed 7 days. Years later she called to have us do her next kitchen. When she cancelled her initial appointment to measure her second kitchen she became upset when the next available date was 10 days later due to most of our designers being at the National Kitchen and Bath Show in Las Vegas. She then wrote a bad review – but of course she was really the root of all of her problems.
If you call on a Friday maybe we can figure out what went wrong the first time and help you prevent a second disaster.
Drew
Hey Paul! Based on your rating I’ve looked into Procraft, but when I looked up the spec guide it shows a 1/4 back panel instead of 1/2 like the rest of the build. But when I look at some videos of people assembling from a few years ago, it looks like the back panel is thin(probably 1/4), but it has a pretty thick frame slapped on top of it. I’ve found a few different spec guides from Procraft since that say conflicting things. Wondering if you can speak to this. Thanks.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Drew,
We used to carry Procraft and when we did they used a 1/4″ back panel but with a 1/2″ x 3″ hanging rail. So everywhere you are screwing the cabinet to the wall is 3/4″ thick. I believe nothing has changed. While a 1/4 back panel by itself would be bad, if you add a 1/2″ hanging rail to the cabinet it is made like many framed lines. Kraftmaid wall cabinets are made this way as are other brands we review well.
I think a 1/2″ full back panel is slightly better and a 3/4″ solid wood hanging rail would also be a little better. A 3/8″ full back panel would be about equal IMO.
Josh
Do you have any knowledge and/or opinions on Valleywood Cabinetry? RTA from Lowe’s and some other RTA sites.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Josh,
We don’t generally rate RTA. It is a foolish way to order cabinetry as there are far better lines that are only a little more that come already assembled and will come with the assistance of a professional kitchen designer included in the price. Lowes won’t measure a kitchen and install this cabinetry even though they sell it. That should tell you something.
Yael
Hi Paul. I’m deciding between Fabuwood and Homecrest cabinets; if using Homecrest upgraded to all plywood boxes is the quality the same or is one better than the other? Thank you.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
They are both good brands Homecrest will offer many more door styles, finishes, types of wood and more standard sizing. If you just want white shaker cabinets Fabuwood will be better because you aren’t taking advantage of any of the reasons to be in a more custom line.
ANN
Do have any knowledge of Cabinets.com?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Ann,
Buying cabinets online assures that no professional ever sees, measures, or designs your kitchen. It doesn’t matter how the cabinets are made the concept is flawed. DIYers will often do anything to avoid the professional help that could save them money, time, and avoid mistakes.
The saying in Law “That a person who represents themselves in court has a fool for an attorney.” also applies to kitchen design. So “A person that designs and measures their kitchen themselves has a fool for a designer.”
Always try to get experienced professional to help when you are working on the largest and most expensive home renovation in your life.
Drew
What are you ratings for KCD? I’m in AK and alot of people use KCD for their kitchens.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Sorry don’t know the brand
Lisa
Hello, We are having a house built and the builder is offering two different brands of cabinets to choose from. They are partial overlay Marsh in the house base price and Dura Supreme as an upgrade. In your opinion, is the Marsh a good cabinet or is is worth the money to upgrade? There will be no children and two adults living in the house who are not hard on things. Thank you for answering my question!
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Lisa,
Upgraded to plywood and in a full overlay cabinet door style – Marsh would be a good selection. Durasupreme is expensive to upgrade and I don’t like the company. The builder is selecting old fashioned cabinet brands so your kitchen design itself surely could use updating as he is out of touch with the market. Most builders are by the way.
Lisa
Our designer is recommending Wellborn cabinets but I’ve seen some questionable reviews on Houzz. We’re going with a shaker style, nothing in our design requires a custom cabinet. The other option that our designer sells is Kraftmaid.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Lisa,
Cabinet reviews from consumers are almost meaningless. Information gotten from Houzz, HGTV or the DIY network is also usually unreliable. There are several reasons for this:
First, homeowners are more likely to write a negative review than a positive one for any cabinet brand and the bigger the cabinet company the more unhappy people they will have often through no fault of their own. Consumers often blame their problems on the cabinet company when the dealer, designer, or contractor is really at fault, or have unrealistic expectations.
Second the people commenting on Houzz, writing articles or reviews, and producing home improvement shows on most networks know absolutely nothing about cabinetry or renovation in most cases.
I would look for reviews for a local cabinet dealer, and after finding a good dealer, listen to their evaluation on the cabinetry they sell. Or use our rating blog. Either will be far more reliable.
Remember we are in the middle of a supply chain nightmare do delays and damages are far more common than in the past.
Below are links to some important relevant blogs:
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/hard-compare-kitchen-cabinet-brands/
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/picking-cabinet-dealer-important-cabinets/
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/kitchen-remodeling-tv-shows-rated-realism-advice/
Lori
I don’t see Northpoint by Hardware Resources listed in your 2021 reviews. I’m contemplating CNC White Luxor vs Northpoint Premier Catalina. Can you offer a review of pros/cons on each? My husband doesn’t like that the painted white on each is a full MDF door, vs others having a wood frame surround with MDF center panel.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Lori,
Your husband is right. I wouldn’t recommend an MDF door for anything but flipping a home. CNC has the solid wood shaker door named Elegant but it’s 30% more than Luxor. Fabuwood is a better value for a Solid wood shaker door and only a little more than CNC’s Elegant.
Susan Hand
Any thoughts on Showplace’s HDM cabinets? Our designer convinced us it was the best way to go for painted cabinets, and I’m beginning to second guess myself for not going with wood.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Susan,
The HDM will look great but will be less durable and unrepairable over time. For a flip or short term it makes sense, otherwise Wood is a better choice.
Ellen Meade
Hi, do you have a rating for Dewils Cabinetry located in Washington state? We are building a home in NC and Dewils has been recommended to us. We are not familiar with them and would appreciate some advice.
Thanks for your help,
Ellen
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Dewils is a custom cabinet brand that I don’t know well. I’m sure they are very well made when upgraded. They will also be expensive.
fahad
Hi Paul,
Any thoughts on Wolf Designer? That’s one of the brands offered by the local kitchen cabinet place I’m working with. I see Wolf is rated well here, but Wolf Signature isn’t. They also have Waypoint which can be upgraded to all plywood. As always, many thanks.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Fahad,
Wolf Classic is a better value than the Wolf Designer series but well made. Waypoint would be similar to Wolf Designer and might offer better looking finishes. We don’t carry Wolf so it’s hard for me to get really specific.
Deirdre Baird
Thank you for all your advice. Could I get your opinion on ConestogaWood doors and drawer faces? They are resold through many retailers. We are looking for painted slim shaker for the perimeter and then a stained wood for the island.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Deidra,
Conestoga makes great products. That being said replacing door and drawer fronts is almost never a sensible investment. Once you are spending 3/4 of the cost of new cabinetry I’d get all new cabinetry in a better design. Investing a lot of money in an outdated design, possibly keeping soffits, and wall ovens in poor locations usually doesn’t make sense.
Andrew
Great post. This has saved me dozens of hours of research and is much more thorough than anything I could have done.
Any thoughts or input regarding Conestoga Wood Specialities cabinets?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Andrew,
I don’t think RTA cabinets even when the parts are very well made as are Conestoga’s make much sense. I’d always buy premade cabinetry with the help of a good dealer and designer. No one that’s an expert in our industry would ever choose this route. As a former general contractor I never would. A carpenter that didn’t value good design might, but that would save almost nothing in materials, and insure that the carpenter was avoiding the help that he or she needs.
Some people actively avoid experts. They think they know better. They never do, but at least the penalty for their ignorance is just a crappy kitchen in our industry.
Ignoring scientific and medical experts has far more serious results.
Sony
Hi Paul,
Is it necessary that I only use one cabinet maker for an entire kitchen remodel. We are currently having a design using KraftMaid Vantage, however, my wife likes a green paint in the Schrock line. The island is where she wants that color, so was wondering if there is any differences I need to keep in my mind if I do the island in shrock and the wall and base cabinets in KraftMaid. The doors are all shaker style…Also, can I use the same design across brands, like, change entire cabinets and layout from KM into Schrock…with similar cabinets?
Sue
Hello,
We are looking to add an addition to expand our kitchen. Is it reasonable that cabinets be ordered before the addition is compete based on the specs of the plan, or should you always wait for the addition to be finished . One kitchen designer said they would do it and would take responsibility for anything that didn’t go to plan and fix it( hs contractor did not raise concerns about ordering cabinets ahead of time) Another from a big box store said they would not oder until the addition is complete. I just want to make sure it is reasonble to order cabinets before addition is complete.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Sue,
Usually we try to order after the walls are framed and before electric, plumbing and drywall is done. That gives you normally plenty of time for the cabinetry to come in before the builder needs cabinets. You certainly don’t need to wait for addition to be complete.
Holly LeClair
Hello,
We had a home built in a 55+ community that used Timberlake cabinets for the kitchen and baths. The builder’s business model makes limited upgrades available. Only 4 cabinet finishes, 3 countertop choices and 3 floor color choices were available. Fortunately they used Timberlake Portfolio Select and we chose the Maple, New Haven door in painted linen. We are happy with the cabinet quality but I am making some custom additions for functionality and to distinguish my home from others. I want to replace my island with quarter sawn white oak and drawers rather than doors. Also we never sit at the island so I would prefer cabinets on both sides rather than seating. In the past my custom kitchens had more drawers which I loved. My new kitchen has more door cabinets and not even a pull out! These cavernous cabinets aren’t very functional so the island storage with drawers would be great. I did contact your company but you would not sell just an island and countertops. I don’t want to replace the entire kitchen. Looking over your list, I am considering Brighton cabinets. Would it be too much of a mixed bag to order inset cabinets for the island. The Timberlake linen cabinets are full overlay. Love your site and all the advice you offer. Thanks so much for your reply. Holly
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Holly,
First off, sorry that we passed on your project. We are so busy and partial kitchen remodels can be as much work for designers as full remodels, and impossible for us to convince contractors to even quote for our customers. Since you are going to have a difficult time finding a kitchen place that will accept your project I think you should focus on finding that company first and simply use the custom or very close to custom cabinet brand that they carry that offers quartersawn white oak. You will be able to upgrade to quality construction in almost every high-end cabinet brand. That brand will also probably color match.
The quartersawn oak cabinetry will come in a cerused finish that will be popular. That finish might not come in an inset door style. If the finish you pick is offered in inset I would personally still get full overlay to keep styles more consistent. If you find the right contractor, it is possible that they could reuse your countertop if it remains undamaged through the renovation.
But work on finding the dealer first and don’t focus on cabinet brand.
Susan
I don’t see Woodland Cabinetry on your list. Any input on these folks? Client wants slab front doors in a color offered by Diamond cabs. This particular style comes as either painted maple veneer over MDF or straight up painted MDF. They think they want solid wood doors though (not avail from Diamond in this color). Woodland was suggested as they offer custom color on solid wood doors. However, I’m seeing very mixed reviews from great (kitchen designers) to awful (customers). Thoughts?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Susan,
Woodland cabinetry is a custom cabinet brand I don’t know much about. However, like other custom brands I assume you can get almost anything you want made almost any way you want it. I looked at the customer reviews and as is usually the case customers are complaining about problems that are either the designers and cabinet dealers fault or they didn’t understand the properties of what they selected.
Be careful of your customers. They are like the people making the complaints about Woodland. THEY are dictating what THEY want based on THEIR own assumptions without any knowledge about the products they are ordering. For example, getting a solid wood painted slab door is just stupid.
If they understand what framed cabinetry is and want framed cabinetry, I would recommend that they stay with the less expensive Diamond cabinets upgraded to Diamonds top construction with the Painted Maple veneer in the color they want.
They also might want frameless cabinetry, which diamond doesn’t make to my knowledge, because frameless cabinetry looks better with slab doors. Make sure you and these customers are on the same page with what they are buying. They have all the earmarks of problem clients.
Chip
Have you ever heard of Greenfield cabinets? Do you know anything about their build quality? https://www.greenfieldcabinetry.com/
Thanks
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Chip,
Greenfield is a custom cabinet brand and so will probably make cabinets durably and with nice finishes. However, based on the lack of transparency, misinformation, and Bull####, on their website, I think that any kitchen ordered through them would need to be supervised by a knowledgeable and experienced kitchen designer. Some manufacturers need more supervision than others. The Corsi Group appears to be one of these. They will be an expensive brand based on their ability to customize and the diverse finish options that they offer.
Shanker
Hi Paul
Thanks for the prompt response. For identical designs, the Mantra cabinets cost 39% less than the Schrock equivalent but the Mantra warranty is only 5 years while the Schrock warranty is limited lifetime. I am curious about what was lacking in the Mantra design that made you rate it a B+ and not an A- or A.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Shanker,
Warranties are meaningless in the cabinet industry. Many terrible lines have long ones. Many fine brands have the former industry standard of 5 years. I think the 3/8″ back without a hanging rail was what got the Mantra q B+ over an A or A-
Shanker
Hi Paul
Thank for taking the time to answer all our questions. I have learned a lot from browsing your site. We are in Massachusetts and are considering Mantra cabinets (Master brand) in Shaker white. I did not see Mantra mentioned in your review and was wondering what you thought of it.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Shanker,
Mantra looks like we would give it a B+ for construction. Maybe in a less expensive price point a B++ But, I don’t know where it prices out compared to other brands so I can’t rate it. If you happen to get pricing for Mantra and another brand we do rate, and can let me know, it would help us towards eventually rating Mantra.
It’s interesting that Masterbrands is now selling inexpensive brands better made than their expensive brands were constructed less than 10 years ago. The cabinet market is changing as consumers become better informed. I’d like to think that our website had something to do with that.
Sandra
I am remodeling a small kitchen in a 800 sq. foot condominium, and then will put the condo up for sale. What reasonably price cabinet line do you recommend?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Sandra,
Great question, because the cabinet brand, the style, AND the color of your cabinets could change quite a bit from what you might choose if you were doing the renovation for yourself or to rent.
Remember this renovation is NOT for you. And so you should be getting the most popular colors and styles that appeal to “the market” right now. You do not need the MOST durable cabinet brands and door styles but they MUST have soft close doors and solid wood dovetail soft close drawers because new home buyers often understand that this means quality.
For flipping I would recommend less expensive brands like CNC, Procraft, US Cabinet Depot and other lower priced brands. So see the better reviewed brands on this blog at the 1 and 2 price point.
A shaker white door style in an MDF door is the most popular and looks great. Not as durable as a wood door but less expensive and better looking which is all you care about.
A partial overlay door style like the CNC Luxor White door style will look great and be even less expensive because it isn’t full overlay and uses less expensive hardware that will be indistinguishable to consumers. Still not a bad cabinet by the way. For a rental property CNC Luxor in grey wood would be a durable, easy to touch, up choice.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, since you are selling the condo the design becomes even more important. DO NOT replace the cabinetry as is. There will be at least slightly better designs that will make the layout of the kitchen and the condo more appealing to buyers. For example, diagonal sinks are home value killers. When you are selling a condo it usually makes the most sense to spend money on design, painting walls, and inexpensive new flooring, but never cabinet, countertop, or appliance upgrades past what’s simply popular.
I’d recommend a level 1 granite color like Steel Grey (quartz is popular but is 50% more expensive) and a $3000 stainless steel appliance package. Get a microwave hood, it saves money and space in a small kitchen. New flooring is also important but even peal and stick vinyl flooring in an attractive pattern is fine.
If the condo has any outside property. Keep the lawn mowed and at least spruce up the yard.
Best of luck selling and remember that most real estate agents are trying to sell your home fast, because THEY make the most money that way. If you sell the condo in a few days that means you were asking too little for it. I would always list a home for AT LEAST 10% more than the real estate agent recommends. Then drop the price in a couple of weeks if the number scares people off.
Christi
Thanks for your feedback. The kitchen you linked to is beautiful and so functional. We have a butler pantry and a mid-size kitchen and we are doing a very similar style/feel as your link just not a large and open – those windows are amazing. I appreciate your thoughts, I’ll try to give a call today and see if I can catch anyone during your phone hours. We don’t need very much customization, as 95% is standard sizing, but have one corner giving me trouble.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Christi,
We only take calls outside our service are on Fridays 2-4 pm so you need to call then.
Christi
We are building our own house on the farm I grew up on, and through this pandemic all sorts of things have gone wrong and become more expensive (I know we aren’t alone in). We need a functional family house that we will use to host lots of casual gatherings – so no high end stuff here. We are in ID and in one of the hottest housing markets in the country, so all materials/craftsmen are crazy backlogged and prices are soaring. We had a custom cabinet maker all lined up and ready to start our job, when he informed us after our final measurement apt with him that he didn’t actually have time to do our job b/c of some contractor orders that he needed to fulfill. SO, we are now at the 11th hour and consulted with 2 other cabinet makers and just don’t feel comfortable with them for the cost/value. We felt very comfortable with our first cabinet guy who bailed on us. Now, I’m pricing Lowes cabinets and are seriously considering Allen & Roth (made by Shenendoah/American Woodmark) and getting the upgraded line. From all info I’m getting is that it’s very comprisable to the Schuler/Diamond lines, but with less options, storage, finishes & sizes. We are considering the painted cabinets. Need advice…
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Christi,
We sell Timberlake which is the same thing as American Woodmark Etc, so I really like the brand. Diamond is also a good brand. What’s the best value really comes down to the door style, finish, and THE LAYOUT of your kitchen. People getting shaker white or gray cabinets with no unusual heights and widths of cabinets can be in less expensive cabinet lines and get just as well-made cabinets as Diamond and American Woodmark and spend much less. Getting custom cabinets makes little sense unless you require the sizing and selections custom cabinetry offers. Here is a link to one of our kitchens designed in a brand 30% less than Diamond or American Woodmark and 60% less than custom cabinetry.
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/kitchen-design-gallery/villanova-pa-renovated-barn/
Most of the time when people are fretting cabinet brands their layouts are actually amateurish and should actually be their biggest concern. That’s why we have our Friday helpline from 2-4 pm EST.
Patricia Kellberg
Hi Paul – It’s the Elan ‘full-access cabinet line’ and from what I saw they looked quite nice. I guess you can’t comment then on how Bertch compares to Wellsford or Bishop even if it’s related to their customer service? Thanks!
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Bertch makes nice cabinets – depending on the Elan lines pricing they will be at least as nice as Bishop but possibly not quite as well constructed. Wellsford is a more expensive full custom brand which should be nicer looking and built to the highest standards. It will be more expensive too.
Patricia Kellberg
Hi Paul,
I am looking at a Mid-Century Modern remodel and want a well-constructed frameless option. I noticed in another post that you recommend Bishop and Wellsford. Can you comment on how Bertch would compare to them?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Patricia,
I didn’t know that Bertch made frameless cabinetry. I would assume that if they do you could upgrade to 3/4′ plywood construction and that we would give them good ratings. However, Bertch selling frameless cabinetry is news to me.
Sue
Thank you for your prompt response! I will be trying to call in Friday! My kitchen was tight and we decided on an addition. We had a design prior to the addition so maybe that is where the blind corner originated from. I was the one pushing for the Lemans (thought they were very cool). I will ask if a way to design without a blind corner.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Sue,
You should definitely call in. When you are going to the expense of an addition it would be very unusual for the design to remain similar to the design prior to the addition, because the cost of moving anything is insignificant compared to the cost of the addition. I’m intrigued to see you design. We take all the calls we receive on Fridays even if we run over, so if you call between 2 and say 3:30 pm you will definitely get in.
Sue
One more question. I am getting a Lemans for a blind corner. If I am using an experienced kitchen designer am I safe to assume they will make sure I have enough swing for it?
Or is there a key question I should ask to make sure. You made me nervous with one of your other comments.
Thanks!!
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
First, I would never spend 45K on a frameless cabinet if I was getting a white shaker door style. The shaker door style doesn’t suffer in looks with a better made framed cabinet. Frameless cabinets are best chosen ONLY with very contemporary kitchens and slab door style does. Why spend more for a lesser constructed product. I haven’t seen your design but it quite likely you could be using a far less expensive line and getting a better designed, more durable, cabinet. Good designers know that blind corners and Lemans units are supposed to be a last resort. If you have 45K in cabinets your kitchen shouldn’t be tight and require a blind corner. It sounds like I wouldn’t like your designer.
I would recommend calling in to our helpline ready to email your design. When a designer does several things that don’t make sense, they usually create poor designs.
Experience is not a guarantee against bad design and poor decision making. Some very experienced designers are terrible at designing kitchens.
Warranties on cabinets are meaningless, for example, IKEA offers a 20-year warranty and they are overpriced junk. Luxor with thin sides and an a MDF door would be outrageously overpriced junk. The fact that your “designer” is steering you in this direction is telling.
Sue
Hello, I am working with a designer who sells Luxor and because of my upper budget of 45k for cabinets he is recommending the Select line. In that line I am looking at a wood shaker style cabinet ( though he keeps pushing the MDF version). He brought me a wood shaker from the higher end line and I could see the panel was thicker and solid wood vs a veneer on the select line. The select line also uses thinner plywood box but warranty on cabinets is the same. What are your thoughts on a wood cabinet from the select line, or should I pay the extra 20% for a solid wood panel? Or is there a better quality all solid wood door for less I should be looking at? I just want a painted white simple shaker door for a transitional kitchen.
Elaine
What are your thoughts on forevermark cabinets
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Elaine,
They are a pretty well make inexpensive brand. However, they have had supply chain issues in the past, so you need to check on their availability.
Mary
Hi Paul,
What do you think about J&k and Shenadoah painted finishes? I know painted wood would need touch ups eventually but is one better then the other in durability and quality? The Shenadoah cabinets would be upgraded to all plywood. Also, due to tariff prices going up as of lately is still worth it going with J&k? The price difference is not much as long as the shenadoah cabinets are on sale. Thank you.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Mary,
We haven’t noticed a difference in durability between any painted cabinet finishes from major brands. There are quality differences – looks wise.
Make sure you are also comparing apples to apples. We sell Shenandoah under the original name Timberlake. They have a lot of MDF and HDF doors that will not be as durable as solid wood doors. The paint will look perfect but the door is simply heavy duty particleboard. These will be less expensive than their solid wood doors.
The Lowes sales go on and off just to put pressure on customers to purchase quickly. One of the many reasons you should be careful buying a kitchen from a home center. Read this blog:
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/why-you-shouldnt-buy-a-kitchen-from-home-depot-or-lowes/
Barb
I did not see Monarch Cabinets in your ratings list. Can you please tell me how you would rate these cabinets. I am looking at both Kith and Monarch at this time. There is no reason as to why these to cabinet companies except by the designers I am working with. I live in the St. Louis, MO area. If there are better cabinets to look at I am very open for suggestions. I have been dealing with a design for 6 months now so if you can help with that it would be appreciated also. Thank you very much for you time and sharing your expertise.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Monarch looks like we would give it an A- for construction. Since I don’t know the line I can’t tell you how it prices out and so what kind of value it would be.
As far as the design goes – you can call in to our help line ready to email your design a week from Friday between 2 and 4pm EST.
MB
Paul – thank you so much for taking time to answer all these questions. Your website is so helpful! I was reading back to some of the earlier posts about inset cabinets. We are working on a kitchen addition and the kitchen designer our contractor recommended suggested Showplace cabinets which does offer an inset option. We would like plain, not beaded. What are your thoughts about this manufacturer for their inset line compared to other manufacturers that do inset?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi MB,
Showplace is very well constructed, however sometimes the less expensive brands have a tough time getting the gaps between doors and drawers and face frames as exact as is needed to look great. Even with 6 way adjustable hinges. Since I don’t know Showplace that well you would have to ask the dealer if they have had any complaints about uneven gaps.
For example, we carry Bishop which is similar to Showplace, and also does inset. We seldom sell inset Bishop though, because they charge more for inset cabinetry, and don’t do it quite as well as Brighton – the less expensive custom line that we sell. Because Brighton is a custom line you aren’t charged for all the customizations and upgrades that Bishop charges, so by the time you price out a Bishop Inset kitchen is is almost Brighton pricing. This might also be the case with Showplace.
ArtistMomStar
Hi Mainline,
I’d really like to know why Urban Effects rated so poorly. From what I understand, there is an option for all plywood cabinet case – which I’m planning to use and all hardware has been changed to Blumotion. Apart from the fact that they’re frameless, is there a reason why I should stay steer clear of this line of cabinets?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi ArtistMom,
The Urban Effects cabinetry has only 5/8″ thick sides and a 1/4″ back with a 5/8″ hanging rail. If upgrading them to plywood is possible, that helps, but in a frameless cabinet 3/4″ sides and a solid back are required to meet sensible standards. I’d pick another frameless line. This is just an expensive version of IKEA.
Kyanne Danowsky
Don’t know if you remember me. I decided to go with a designer for our cabinetry and skip the Home Depot frustartion. So far, going with Medallion. Now because of lead times she suggests either waiting the 20 weeks or I could go with a cheaper brand, Kitchen Craft. Do you have an opinion?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Kyanne,
I’d wait for the much better cabinet brand. Remember to upgrade to plywood.
fahad
Hi Paul,
Thanks for all your advice here. Just saw your comment about Euro appliances. In general, for a mid priced kitchen for people who don’t actually cook a lot, what are some appliance brands we should be looking at? There’s quite the range out there.
Also, planning to call you next Friday. We have the drawing from the architect now, would love to get your thoughts on it.
Elaine
We are making plans to remodel our kitchen and I would love to have rift sawn white oak cabinets with a shaker style door. It appears they are extremely hard to find and would be very expensive. I’m wondering if you are aware of a cabinetry line that offers them or have any suggestions for something similar. I do not want painted cabinets. I love the subtle color & wood grain. Maple cabinets I have seen appear glossy & too smooth. (I fear I am not explaining my dilemma very clearly). I consider you the expert and I would very much appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thank you for sharing your time and talent with all of us all that need your expertise but do not live in your area!
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Elaine,
The finish you want is expensive and even additionally expensive if you want that finish to look cerused. See link
The only inexpensive choice you will find that looks similar is plastic laminate door and drawers made to look like this finishing technique. Inexpensive brands like CNC will do this but you will need to paying at least 60% more to get the real thing.
Sri
Thanks Paul. Could you please elaborate further on what design choices Porcelanosa makes which are not good? We are definitely looking to increase the function by changing layout as needed.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Shri,
First, I’m not a big fan of European cabinet and appliance engineering. Frameless cabinets are less well constructed in general than better made framed lines and European cabinet brands and designers often disregard the limitations that need to be considered when the cabinetry is frameless. European appliances are nice looking but are poorly designed compared to even inexpensive Korean appliances. For example many European Ranges that cost over 20K don’t even have an oven that would fit a turkey or a pizza.
Next, The Porcelanosa planning guide on their web site LINK HERE shows a complete lack of understanding of how to design a kitchen. It assumes that the customer is capable of measuring and coming up with the design plan that they want. The first step for creating ANY kitchen design requires a professional measuring and examining a home to determine how walls are constructed and what’s in them among many other considerations. For example 60% of the kitchens we design remove walls or move windows or doorways. This approach just makes Porcelanosa an over priced IKEA as far as design itself goes.
Add to this, that they are not just like an over priced IKEA in their approach to kitchen design but their whole store is the same IKEA business model. IE, Less experienced employees selling all types of products with little knowledge about what they sell or how to install it.
Lastly they get terrible reviews – at least the store local to me does. See link
Sri
Hi Paul,
Thanks for putting together an extensive comparison table. We are looking to redo our kitchen and came across Porcelanosa cabinets. What do you think about them?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Sira,
Porcelanosa is a an expensive frameless European brand that specializes in ultra modern styling, but based on their kitchen planning guide, shuns the concept of good kitchen design. If you are considering a slab door style and an ultra modern kitchen look, and you have a large budget, then their cabinetry could be a good choice. However I worry about anyone from this company designing your kitchen. If you have a big budget a modern style kitchen, I would think a designer that sells Poggenpohl Cabinets or Omega Dynasty might be more knowledgeable. If you aren’t getting a slab door style than these brands are not what you should be looking at.
Fahad
Hello there,
Thanks for providing such a great resource here.
I currently have a local architect working on drawings and renderings for a house we just bought. For the kitchen aspect would you still recommend we also get a good kitchen designer too? I was going through your list of cabinet companies, thinking I could then tell the architect or contractor which to use, but read a comment from you that it’s best to get a designer. But the designer may have their own preferences or companies they work with? Should I still use your list and suggest the companies I like?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Fahad,
First definitely shop first for a good kitchen designer that works at a respected showroom and one NOT recommended by your architect. Most architects are VERY poor kitchen designers and were you to select a kitchen designer that had a relationship with your architect they might not be forthcoming about bad designs suggested by the architect.
READ this blog for clarification:
https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/why-are-so-many-of-the-most-expensive-kitchens-so-poorly-designed/
I would also suggest having me review your floor plans on our help line and podcast. It should set you on a good track. Call 610-500-4071 on a Friday 2-4 pm EST. With the exception of Black Friday and between Christmas and New Years.
The design is more important than the cabinet brand, so long as the brand isn’t a bad one, and is upgraded as needed.
Kyanne
We are remodeling and trying to decide on a kitchen cabinet maker. I have looked at Medallion through a designer in town and also looked at Thomasville through the Home Depot. Thomasville is less expensive but the reviews have scared me a bit. I would appreciate any advice you could give.
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Kyanne,
Medallion Cabinetry also rebranded as Schuler Cabinetry sold at Lowes, and also essentially rebranded as Yorktowne cabinetry by their new manufacturer ACPI, is a nice nearly custom cabinet brand known for it’s nice finishes. Diamond manufactured by Masterbrands and sold at Lowes and remarketed as Thomasville at The Home Depot, is also sold under other names. Under any name it is a good brand. Diamond/Thomasville is a little less custom then Medallion, and while it has nice looking finishes, they don’t quite reach the looks of Medallion. You must upgrade both these lines to all plywood construction and soft close hardware. You don’t mention the door style and finish you are getting, but if you can’t notice a difference or the difference doesn’t matter to you then Thomasville is a better value for you, and will be just as durable.
However the reason Diamond and Thomasville get more bad reviews is BECAUSE they are sold at home centers. Home center designers are often inexperienced and the home center environment isn’t a good one for creating a great kitchen. See this blog: https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/why-you-shouldnt-buy-a-kitchen-from-home-depot-or-lowes/
Home owners usually worry about cabinet quality when they should be worrying about design quality, and designer ability and experience. The kitchen designer you work with literally determines the value of your home with their design. If a homeowner or contractor designed a kitchen, then we know it must be amateurish, and if you are pricing that simplistic design different places you are asking for trouble. See this blog: https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/price-comparing-kitchen-cabinets-and-why-it-is-a-bad-idea/
It is always my recommendation that people shop for a kitchen designer and a well regarded cabinet dealer, and not for cabinets. You should consider vetting your design with us on our Friday helpline and podcast. Just call 610-500-4071 between 2-4 pm EST. Black Friday there is no podcast.
mick
My designer is recommending Fabuwood and I do like the product, but the sides of the cabinet really do not match the doors and the face frame of the cabinets, it does not even appear to be painted. Do you have another product where the sides match the front?
pmcalary[ Post Author ]
Hi Mick,
Of course, the sides of the cabinet come painted. The designer just has to specify what cabinets need finished sides. This is the way all but very cheap cabinets come. If your designer doesn’t know this, they should not be designing anyone’s kitchen.